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OpenAI Publishes Emails to Rebut Apple's Trade Secret Suit

OpenAI answered Apple's July trade secrets lawsuit with a public post calling it careless, aggressive and oddly personal, publishing messages it says show Apple staff asking a departed employee to help locate files.

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Edited by Trace Cohen · Early-stage VC & angel · Founder, New York Venture Partners
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THE RUNDOWN

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More than 400 former Apple employees now work at OpenAI, which reframes the case from two named departures into an attempt to slow a hardware program staffed substantially by Apple's own alumni as it tries to ship a device.

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OpenAI's most damaging claim is operational rather than legal: that Apple does not revoke system access on departure, leaving ex-employees holding live credentials they neither want nor know they still have.

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Answering a complaint with a public post and selected iMessages is self-serving by construction -- the messages OpenAI chose to publish are the ones that help OpenAI, and Apple has not yet addressed the February miscommunication.

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Waymo versus Uber settled and Zoox versus Tesla settled, so the realistic product here is discovery, not a verdict, and discovery puts OpenAI's device timeline and Apple's internal AI decisions on the record before launch.

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The VC Read · Trace's Take

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400+ ex-Apple employees at OpenAI is the actual story; the lawsuit is the friction from a talent migration Apple couldn't price. For founders hiring out of big tech: OpenAI's claim that Apple doesn't revoke access on departure is the detail to internalize -- your new hire's dormant credentials at their old employer are your legal exposure, not theirs. Write offboarding attestation into every offer letter. Discovery is where this gets expensive for both sides.

Analysis

OpenAI responded publicly to Apple's trade secrets lawsuit with a post arguing the case is "careless, aggressive and oddly personal," as covered by Fortune. Apple filed on July 10, alleging that former employees carried confidential information into OpenAI's hardware program, naming Chang Liu, accused of accessing material after his departure, and Tang Tan, accused of seeking and using Apple trade secrets.

OpenAI's rebuttal is procedural as much as substantive. It says Apple's outside counsel emailed the wrong person in February after confusing two similar last names, then told OpenAI the matter was being resolved without raising the allegations that later appeared in the complaint. It published iMessages it says show Apple employees asking Liu to help them find files after he left, and argues Apple fails to revoke system access on departure, leaving ex-employees with credentials they neither want nor know about.

Apple's suit is best read as an attempt to slow a hardware program staffed substantially by its own alumni, at the moment OpenAI is trying to ship a device.

The backdrop is a talent flow, not a single hire: more than 400 former Apple employees now work at OpenAI, and Tang Tan was a senior figure in Apple's hardware design organization before joining Jony Ive's io, which OpenAI acquired in 2025. Apple's suit is best read as an attempt to slow a hardware program staffed substantially by its own alumni, at the moment OpenAI is trying to ship a device.

Trade secret cases between large technology companies rarely produce clean verdicts. Waymo versus Uber settled; Zoox versus Tesla settled. What they reliably produce is discovery, which is where OpenAI's hardware timeline and Apple's internal AI decisions both become exposed. Litigating this in public blog posts is unusual and cuts both ways -- the emails OpenAI chose to publish are the ones that help OpenAI.

What to watch: whether Apple amends the complaint to address the February communications directly, and whether the court sets an early schedule that puts OpenAI's device roadmap into discovery before it launches.

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Reported by Fortune · First reported by Ars Technica · Analysis by Value Add Pulse.

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